After receiving numerous comments about seeing the film first that is exactly what I shall do. I have reverted my post on Zero Dark Thirty to draft until I can see the film for myself. It opens here on the 19th and I will see it shortly thereafter. I honestly hope that everything I have heard about its embrace of torture is wrong.
Given everything that has been written or stated about the scenes in question, I have little hope that it is wrong but I cannot know it for myself until I see it. One thing is for sure: This year's Oscars already have the ready-made controversy they so greedily crave. Perhaps they can even get a repeat of the 1979 ceremony honoring the 1978 nominees that included The Deer Hunter and Coming Home, with Jane Fonda yelling "The Deer Hunter is a lie!" as it won its Oscar. Will someone yell the same of Zero Dark Thirty? And will they be right? We shall see.
Given everything that has been written or stated about the scenes in question, I have little hope that it is wrong but I cannot know it for myself until I see it. One thing is for sure: This year's Oscars already have the ready-made controversy they so greedily crave. Perhaps they can even get a repeat of the 1979 ceremony honoring the 1978 nominees that included The Deer Hunter and Coming Home, with Jane Fonda yelling "The Deer Hunter is a lie!" as it won its Oscar. Will someone yell the same of Zero Dark Thirty? And will they be right? We shall see.


2 comments:
I managed to read your piece before you pulled it. Still haven't gotten to Greenwald's because of his douche-like refusal to back off his way-off secondhand statements: I just don't want to give him another traffic hit.
Obviously, you already know how liberal I am. I am also anti-torture. I saw ZERO DARK THIRTY, and it doesn't advocate for torture as having been a reliable source of information so I'm surprised Bigelow and Boal are dancing around that question (where did they address this?). If anything, the torture scenes are ambiguous in this regard.
I believe the scenes point to a corruption of the naive heroine, Maya. As I state in my review, if one views Maya as a metaphorical stand-in for America itself, then the early introduction of Maya to such maltreatment of our enemies--on her first assignment as a CIA analyst right out of college--immediately stamps a blemish on her soul as deep as the one staining America's reputation because of the use of such tactics. It's a bruise the end of the film indicates she never seems to recover from.
See the movie first, then I encourage you to read my take on it. (Feel free to disagree then.)
Tony, this comment is very encouraging. I had a few people message me that the impression of the movie showing torture giving up vital information might be erroneous and your take seems to confirm that. Unlike Greenwald, once I received this information I felt it only responsible to remove my post. I may have strong opinions based on my political attitudes but I pride myself on never digging in. If someone can show me I'm wrong, and it appears here that I was (so far, at least until I see it to be sure), I can't continue to make the argument.
I now look forward to seeing the movie to get to the bottom of this. I have gotten enough info from other people, you included, to indicate that the story floating around the press right now - that it endorses torture - is wrong. In fact, it feels like a lot of misinterpretation more than anything else.
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